Hi, I was just wondering if you have any idea on when the full version will be released. i don't mean to be rude or ask you to rush I'm just asking as i finished the demo and liked it so much that i can't wait to play the full game through.
They are hoping to release their commercial game (The Masquerade Killer) sometime in Q3/4 of 2018, after that they will continue work on LiD. It's going to be a bit of a wait basically, but I'm sure it will be worth it! And I recommend checking out the writer/artists other games in the mean time, Red String of Fate, Airis, and The Masquerade Killer.
They are focusing on their commercial game for the moment but have stated that lid is still being worked on sporadically. They are planning on resuming full focus on this after TMKs release.
I played this game back when it was just the original Three. And I so desperately at the time wanted it to be able to romance my best friend. When I came across the update my first thought was please let him be a route. You guys do not disappoint.
it's been a while, and many stuff happened to me, but now that I stumbled upon this page again and remember Zel and Nicholl,...I know I'll wait for the full game and get it! (Unless it's too expensive. ... Unless Zel is even more lovable and a little bit sexy. ... Unless I don't have enough moneeey-omg x_x)
Yay! I remember wanting to play this game last year (I'm the jerk who said it didn't work on my computer, remember me? Hopefully not!) Now I'm really glad I got to play the new demo because it was ah-ma-zing!
I chose Mer because I liked his sweet, sad expression. But the other lads were all so cute, it was a hard choice!
I personally really love Princess Charming. I feel you did a great job with her character, she's likable and never boring! I love her playful dialogue with all the characters, and that she always has a good first impression of everyone she meets (except Ellis haha!)
Now I'm excited for the full version- can't wait to find out everyone's delicious backstory!
It would help the developers to know what part of the game you didn't like. Because it can help them to improve the game beyond what their demo provides.
I played the new demo today and i can just say that the game reached a whole new level. The dialoges aren't that short and random anymore and it's really nice to see all of the new features and characters available in the New Demo Version. If the full game turns out to be as great as this Demo than it was clearly worth the wait! I guess i can also say that i liked this short demo a lot more than the old full game, so im pretty excited for u to launch it since it'll surely be hella awesome! Thanks for recreating the game! :)
I FINALLY GET TO BE WITH NIC OMG I HAVE BEEN WAITING A YEAR FOR THIS THANK YOU SM <3 <3 <3 I am so excited to play it, and I'm interested in maybe even reviewing the Demo since I love it so much lol, it'll be fun as I havent played it since the first Demo came out <3 <3 <3 xx
Ah, I'm happy for this new demo! I played the NaNo version a few months back, though I forgot to leave a review. Sorry about that, but I guess, at this point, I'll talk about the new demo instead.~ I can see how the script is being reworked, and is flowing much better. The time pressure was visible in the original one, but now it's on par with the gorgeous art and music that I had fallen in love with! I also see that there are sometimes three choices, I'm curious if this means there will be three endings per route?~
From the original three, my favorite is Snow, but Zel is close second. (Honestly I just cannot forgive Mer, but probably I'll understand him better in the new version.) I wonder if the new routes will sway me, since I love both shy characters like Ellis and childhood best friends like Nicholl.~
Cheers for your team, and keep up the good work! I will be looking forward to the full release.~
Uh, if I may ask, why do you like Snow? He was honestly my least favorite, and I strongly disliked him, so I just can't wrap my head around it. I'm not trying to be rude or anything, I'm genuinely curious.
I just played through what's in the Ellis route, and I didn't know what drew me to him. Until I realized- he reminded me so much of a human version of Wheatley! Oh man, once I realized that, it- it was just over. No question, no competition, nope, just Ellis. I love characters like that so much. Though now I've just completed what's in his route, and you did it. Now I'm dying for the full release. Aw man! What the heck! This is why I don't play demos! Now I have to wait to get back to my little cinnamon roll. *cries*
Also, if I may ask, is there any planned release date for the full game?
There were multiple things in the new demo that I was like, "Hey! That's new!" I was honestly taken by a bit of a surprise each time. Though one addition I'm not sure about is Tabitha. She seems like a tad more aggressive version of Nicholl. They're almost like the same character. Was she really needed? Though I suppose I haven't seen much of her, so I can't really say too much. *sigh* (Also, I have seen the comment you made about how Charming needs "pushy" friends in order to not scare them away, and I suppose that makes sense, she just seems a lot like Nicholl somehow. Pushy, kinda sassy, likes to tease, fierce, a good friend, etc.)
I'll try to keep this short, mainly for the purpose of trying not to bore you. (edit - I have failed at keeping this short T_T)
This demo was delightful! The art looked very pleasing, the music was wonderful and the story and writing was just phenomenal. I went through each of the routes in the NaNoRenO version multiple times (I missed the boys!) and I see clearly how much the writing has improved. Greenace is also doing a fantastic job with the sprites and CG's. I am already waiting for the full version but at the same time dreading it, for the sole reason that this project will be over. *frowns*
Well, the new characters. Tabitha is sooo precious! She gave me a little bit of a 'pushy' vibe which I usually don't like but I actually really liked her as a character ( she also looked girly yet very confident). Ellis is like a cinnamon roll to me (but Zel is my true cinnamon roll!) , he was acting a little weird and awkward which I think is a big part of his charm. The way he looks matches his personality perfectly, and his colour palette was very charming!
Now that I went into the looks of people I really wanted to say I love how the main menu looks like (the bunny ears Nicholl is making are very cute!). Each and every of the characters are really well done with their design and colours. I also really admire the first CG you see in the game (Charming making a potion).
My favourite route just had to be Nicholl's. Ever since the first version of the game I really wanted him to be a love interest, when I found out the news that he will be in the full-er version of the game I was ecstatic. I like the chemistry that Charming and Nicholl have between them and I am really wondering what happens next in his route. It took quite an unexpected turn, which I was charmed by. I am also interested in this melon garden, I hope we can find out a little bit more about it. (Bonus! - I was chuckling to myself so hard at the 'body switching' part in Mer's route, at how he was so flushed and immediately retreated and set that topic aside. It was waaaay more hilarious to me than it should have been.)
Now let me just wrap this up. I am a little bit sad at the fact that Beau and Hood didn't make it into the fuller version. I do recall reading somewhere that you might add them in the distant future, so I'm holding onto that piece of hope. (Mostly because I love the way the setting of the story goes with the plot, definitely one of my favourite Visual Novels out there). I only have 1 question, which has probably answered before but I rather ask it myself and be sure of it, will the full game be free or will you have to pay for it?
Well that's about it, I wish you luck with further development and I'm waiting for more great games from you! Thank you for this fantastic game ^.^
(Just a note to start off with: This is Windchimes, the writer of Lads in Distress / Catfish Crew. I'm just using this account for our new VN studio to answer comments because I have added this account as a contributor to LiD project, and it's easier to monitor all our games under both CC and EG from this account alone.)
Hello! Thank you for trying our new demo and for the detailed feedback! Don't worry, we don't mind long comments at all ^_^
We're
glad you like the new demo! :D It particularly makes me happy that you
felt the writing has improved. Crazy how much one year of constant VN
writing can do, huh? Looking back on the old NaNoRenO script makes me
cringe now lol.
Thank you for the compliments on the art! We
were worried about whether fans would be unhappy about art inconsistency
with the changes in the character artist position, so we're glad to
hear you like the character/CG art and Ellis's new design!
Haha,
glad to hear you like Tabitha! Yes, she can definitely be pushy, but
that's why she's such great friends with Charming ;) Charming needs
strong characters like Tabitha as friends or else she'd probably scare
all of them away, lol. Yes, I'd say Ellis's social awkwardness is part
of his charm. It's so different from all the princes Charming meets
daily that she's drawn to it in a strange way. ;)
Ah, another
Nicholl fan! Honestly, with how much fans were asking for a Nicholl
route for NaNoRenO version, I was so nervous about whether this Nicholl
route would let you guys down, so I'm glad to hear you like his route!
As for the melon garden... It's actually a joke / meme that started in
our public Discord server with fans, so blame them! I ended up making it
canon because it fits and it's hilarious, so the melon garden will
definitely come up more often in Nicholl's route!
Haha, Beau and
Hood... Maybe in a distant future. xD No promises yet! Sorry for the
disappointment though OTL We really didn't want to cut them, but we had
no choice ;o;
The full game will indeed continue to be free! So no worries about that :D After all, we're using a lot of CC-NC background resources, so we can't make the game commercial even if we wanted to, unless we want to commission full set of original backgrounds lol.
Anyways, thank you again for playing our demo and letting us know your thoughts! ^_^
Okay, I'm already done with the new demo, so commenting as promised!
Also
SPOILERS AHEAD, mainly for people who aren't the devs and didn't play the previous version!
So, first off, I must say I really enjoyed the writing now. Even if I'm not the best judge as english isn't my language, I still can see it's a lot better now. The new characters' sprites are also gorgeous, and the overall thing is just glorious. I'm really thrilled about the full version of this!
Now about the newcomers among the romanceable characters. Ellis is such a lovely character. He's very interesting, and it's really nice that he actually doesn't want to marry - he goes really well with the rest of the cast, since each one of them has really different motivations and ambitions. I also can't wait to learn more about his brothers and all the mess about them. And Nicholl... well, Nicholl is still my favorite, so I can't even express how overjoyed I am with his route, even if it's only the beginning. I was wondering about where would this route go, since he's not one of the suitors per se, and I love it so far, it's so intriguing! And since now he and Charming have a lot more interractions than before, I love their relationship even more.
And now, as you may have expected, I need to talk about Mer, of course, as usual, yeah I'm obsessed, yada yada XD - aaanyway! Yeah, I can see the improvement on the writing here, and my worries are eased so far - it was so great and I'm incredibly excited about it. I also really really like how the talk about the body exchange goes at the beginning - when Nicholl wants to trade bodies with Charming. The flow of this conversation is great. I must admit I don't recall if this conversation was in there in the old version, and I'm too lazy to check it out right now, but if it was, obviously it wasn't as impacting as now. Knowing the truth about Mer and what happens at the end of the route, even if it may have been altered a bit for the new version, I think you really did a great job writing that scene.
I'm really curious if he'll stay my favorite route in this new version or if I'll like Nicholl's route more, as I like him more as a character. We'll see when you'll be done with the full release I guess! Can't wait for it!
Thank you for the great expansion! Good work and good luck with finishing the project!
(Just a note to start off with: This is Windchimes, the writer of Lads in Distress / Catfish Crew. I'm just using this account for our new VN studio to answer comments because I have added this account as a contributor to LiD project, and it's easier to monitor all our games under both CC and EG from this account alone.)
Hello! Thanks for playing the demo and getting back to us with your feedback so quickly! ^_^
Thank you very much for the compliments and kind words! It particularly means a lot to me that you said the writing has improved. Turns out a year of constant VN writing can do a lot for your writing skill lol. Re-reading old script for NaNoRenO version seriously makes me cringe now, so I'm really happy that players feel that the writing in the new demo is better in comparison!
Haha, yes! I definitely had fun writing Ellis. Poor Charming has probably never been rejected before in her life, so I thought it would be fun when one of the princes don't actually want to marry her. ;)
Thank you! I'm so happy and relieved you like Nicholl's route. His is definitely the route I'm most nervous about, since it's new and so many fans have been waiting for a Nicholl route that I was worried the actual route would disappoint, haha.
Yay! Glad to hear you think Mer's route has improved and didn't disappoint you as a fan of the old route. We definitely put in a lot of work trying to rewrite and improve his route, as I believe many players previously criticized parts of Mer's route. The conversation about body swapping actually was in the NaNoRenO version as well! We just rewrote it to make it flow better and be more natural and, well, more hilarious so that it'd be more memorable. Thank you for the compliments! Really glad to hear you liked the new version of Mer's route.
Again, thank you for playing our new demo and for letting us know your thoughts! It means a lot to us :D Hopefully you'll enjoy the final full version too when the time comes!
YES WE DID IT. Special thanks to you. Oh, you should remind me to add you guys to the credits, haha. I couldn't have made it through the last week of working on the new demo if it weren't for you guys :")
First of all, sorry for my English, it is not my native language) So, I really like your game) The art is unique and very nice.
Now some spoilers. The story... To be honest my first route was with Zel and I really don't like this guy just because crybaby is not my type. Don't be offended please, it's just me) Snow has really nice endings, both of them. Mer's was the last route for me and I was a bit dissapointed at first, cause I has his 'good' ending and was like: 'Seriously? You will just forgive him? That guy is not even trying too hard to make everything okay!' But then I get Mer's second ending. And YOU MADE MY DAY. Usually I don't like something like that in games but here it was unexpected and just hilarious! Maybe that ending is the main reason I liked your game so much) Thank you for creating it ;)
P. S. I am waiting for the full version) It would be very nice to see Nicholl path in it, I like that guy)
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Thank you for playing the old NaNoRenO version! Happy to hear you liked Snow and Mer's second ending. :D
We now have a new demo for the full version released! There are 2-3 scenes for Nicholl's route in the demo, so hope you'll like him if you end up trying the demo!
Again, thank you for playing the old NaNoRenO version :)
I don't really know what i'm supposed to write here, but i guess i'll just begin from the start.
I really liked the art in general, but the CG's looked like they were drawn by another person? Idk if thats true, but it was kinda another style and i didn't really liked most of the CG's because of that.
The storyidea sounded cool to me in the beginning, but as i continued to play Mer and especially Zels Route, i felt like the story was just being rushed and it started to become flat and boring. I could predict almost everything that happened, and nothing made really sense, to me it seemed like the author just wanted to reveal all the secrets as soon as possible and finish the story. A lot of dialogue missed to complete the story and i started to get bored.
The only route i liked was Prince Snow's route, because his route didn't seem so rushed to me and it wasnt that predictable.
I'm sorry if i'm just writing mean things rn, im not trying to offend someone but this is my opinion on the game so far. I'm interested though how everything'll change when the development progresses cause i liked the basic story and the characters.
Greetings and plz don't take this comment as hate,
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Hello! I must apologize for the late reply >_< I
don't log on the CatfishCrew account anymore as I'm usually on this EG
account to keep track of our new games under this account, so I didn't
see the notifications about new comments.
First, to answer your question, yes the CGs were drawn by three artists in the team who stepped up to finish the CGs together after our initial CG artist left so that we could actually release the old version on time for NaNoRenO. As a result, there will definitely be art inconsistencies; sorry to hear you didn't like them! We have a new CG artist now responsible for the CGs of the full version, so hopefully that helps!
Secondly, thanks for your critique on the story! The script was extremely rushed because we wrote all 75k in the span of 30 days for NaNoRenO lol. Sorry to hear you didn't like the game, though! Those issues should be improved upon in the new version.
This game was so much fun and so adorable! The different stories were so exciting, but I do hope Nicholl will be an option eventually! :3 I sat and played through every scenario today, and loved it! My only wish was that there were more choices the player could make. Lads in Distress gets two thumbs up from me!
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Hello! I must apologize for the extremely late reply >_< I
don't log on the CatfishCrew account anymore as I'm usually on this EG
account to keep track of our new games under this account, so I didn't
see the notifications about new comments.
Thank you for the compliments and kind words! Glad to hear you enjoyed the NaNoRenO version.
Yes, Nicholl is now a love interest you can choose to romance in the new demo of the full version that we just recently released! :) Currently, 2-3 of the scenes in his route is covered in the demo. Hope you enjoy romancing Nicholl if you end up trying the new demo!
(Just a note to start off with: This is the writer of Lads in Distress / Catfish Crew. I'm just using this account for our new VN studio to answer comments because I have added this account as a contributor to LiD project, and it's easier to monitor all our games under both CC and EG from this account alone.)
Hello! I must apologize for the extremely late reply >_< I
don't log on the CatfishCrew account anymore as I'm usually on this EG
account to keep track of our new games under this account, so I didn't
see the notifications about new comments.
Yes, Nicholl is now a love interest you can choose to romance in the new demo of the full version that we just recently released! :) Currently, 2-3 of the scenes in his route is covered in the demo. Hope you enjoy romancing Nicholl if you end up trying the new demo!
(Just a note to start off with: This is the writer of Lads in Distress / Catfish Crew. I'm just using this account for our new VN studio to answer comments because I have added this account as a contributor to LiD project, and it's easier to monitor all our games under both CC and EG from this account alone.)
Hello! I must apologize for the extremely late reply >_< I
don't log on the CatfishCrew account anymore as I'm usually on this EG
account to keep track of our new games under this account, so I didn't
see the notifications about new comments.
Yes, we're aware some antivirus programs flag our game as a virus, even though all the AV softwares we have access to all report our game files as clean. If you are concerned and would rather not trust that it's a false positive, we totally understand. Sorry for the problems, but thank you for your interest in our game!
I think someone asked the same thing a bit lower in the comments. Catfish Crew replied and told them instructions on what to do on Mac. Hope It'll work
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Hello! I must apologize for the extremely late reply >_< I
don't log on the CatfishCrew account anymore as I'm usually on this EG
account to keep track of our new games under this account, so I didn't
see the notifications about new comments.
Nicholl is now a love
interest you can choose to romance in the new demo of the full version
that we just recently released! :) Currently, 2-3 of the scenes in his route is covered in the demo. Hope you enjoy romancing Nicholl if you end up trying the new demo!
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Hello! I must apologize for the extremely late reply >_< I
don't log on the CatfishCrew account anymore as I'm usually on this EG
account to keep track of our new games under this account, so I didn't
see the notifications about new comments. Thank you very much for the compliment, and thank you for playing LiD! ^_^
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Hello! I must apologize for the extremely late reply >_< I
don't log on the CatfishCrew account anymore as I'm usually on this EG
account to keep track of our new games under this account, so I didn't
see the notifications about new comments.
We are unlikely to do any translations for this game, sorry :( None of us are proficient enough in French for that, haha. Sorry for any disappointment!
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Hello! I must apologize for the extremely late reply >_< I
don't log on the CatfishCrew account anymore as I'm usually on this EG
account to keep track of our new games under this account, so I didn't
see the notifications about new comments.
Nicholl is now a love interest you can choose to romance in the new demo of the full version that we recently released! :) He'll get his own route in the full game as well. Hope you'll enjoy his route if you try the new demo!
Hi! I really really want to play this game but for somehow it won't open. I open the game and it appears and then disappears from the dock? Do you know what the problem may be??
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Hello! I must apologize for the extremely late reply >_< I
don't log on the CatfishCrew account anymore as I'm usually on this EG
account to keep track of our new games under this account, so I didn't
see the notifications about new comments.
If you happen to still have our old NaNoRenO version downloaded, I believe you can try to workaround that problem on Mac by right-clicking the game file and clicking Show Package Contents > Contents > MacOS > Lads in Distress game file again. It should also bring up the terminal, but the game should be able to run properly then. I believe this issue is because the NaNoRenO version of LiD isn't compatible with the new MacOS updates, but who knows ;o; Anyways, that's one workaround we found, but we would definitely suggest you to forget the old NaNoRenO version and just try our new demo for the full version which we recently uploaded for the full experience! Haha.
Thank you for your interest in LiD again! Really sorry about the late reply ;o;
This game is absolutely lovely. The character sprites are gorgeous, the backgrounds are beautiful- the interactions are charming and fun. I adore that there are (almost) no bad endings, and trust me I played all of them. It was so refreshing to see a game where the main character (almost) always kept her independence, desire for justice, and need to help others. Charming is a really fun protagonist and I found that I never got annoyed or tired of playing as her. The princes were really nice as well. I really liked all the different routes. If I HAD to pick one, I'd probably pick Zel's "better' route, because he is very sweet and reminds me of myself in a way with his shyness eheh. But yes, overall this is a fantastic game and I absolutely cannot wait for the expansion of this story and more options!
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Hello! Thank you very much for playing Lads in Distress, NaNoRenO version!
First, I must apologize for the extremely late reply >_< I don't log on the CatfishCrew account anymore as I'm usually on this EG account to keep track of our new games under this account, so I didn't see the notifications about new comments.
Anyways, thank you very much for the kind words and compliments! :D We're really glad that you like Charming; we wanted to make a proactive protagonist, so we're glad that the players like her too!
We now have a new demo for the full version of the game up, which covers the new common route + 2 scenes per route (with Ellis and Nicholl as two new love interests), in case you're interested! :)
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Hello! Thank you very much for playing Lads in Distress, NaNoRenO version! Glad to hear you liked him! :D
Apologies for the late reply >_< I don't log on the CatfishCrew account anymore as I'm usually on this EG account to keep track of our new games under this account, so I didn't see the notifications about new comments.
I am trying to open your game, but I can't open the .exe, it says that " You can't open the application "Lads in Distress.exe" because Microsoft Windows applications are not supported on OS X." Please help me, I want to play your game!!!
If you're on Mac using OS platform, you shouldn't be trying to open the .exe file. That zip folder for download has a file to run for each platform -- Windows, Mac and Linux. Run the Mac version -- double click and run the one that doesn't have any file extension (the one without .exe or .sh).
I really love this game! I have played through all 3 princes once, and I find them all unique and endearing in their own ways. I plan to play through them again, of course :D
I did find a few spelling errors I wanted to relay to you.
In Prince Mer's path, he says, "Do not remove the water over your years just yet." So it says years instead of ears.
And another in Prince Zel's path, when Charming makes her puppy dog eyes, it says, "... even siffing and tearing up to increase the effect." SO it says siffing, when I think you make have meant sniffing.
Nothing serious, I just wants to let you know :D I look forward to any more additions to the game!
Thanks for playing our game! And thanks for letting us know about the typos, but we won't be fixing them in this version and uploading a new one; we'll likely only be fixing typos in the extended version.
Thank you very much! :D Glad to hear you enjoyed the game. Hopefully you'll like the full version of the game too <3 We'll be working hard to bring you guys Nicholl's and the new bachelor's routes as soon as possible!
I've just played through the game for the first time, and I love it so far. I'm very curious about the other routes, and even more about these to come in the expansion! I can't wait for it to be released!
Since you were asking for feedback, I'll use your form from the LSF thread!
1. Did you play the NaNoRenO version of LiD? What did you think of it?
This is the one currently disponible, right? I loved the path I did (Mer). I got his first ending, and I liked it a lot. I'm very fond of the soundtrack too, it's very pretty. The menus are very nicely done, and it was a nice idea to use the stars for the sound levels or the pages in the save menu.
2. Any thoughts or comments about the story premise/characters so far?
I like the overall concept, though I can't judge Snow's and Zel's routes yet. But I can already see each route will be unique once you choose the suitor you want, wich is always nice. Mer was a great character - I did his route first because I have a thing for disabled characters. I juste LOVED the whole insecurity and sentiment of distrust all along the route - I couldn't stop playing until I've reached the end of it, and wow, I really enjoyed the revelations and the ending. Though I must admit the ending was a bit confusing - I would like to know what was the solution Nicholl found to get them out of this mess!
3. Who is your favorite character at the moment?
It's hard since I haven't seen Snow and Zel a lot, but the first one to catch my attention was Nicholl, even if he isn't an option in this release. As for Mer, I like him more than I thought I'd do, but it's hard to tell if he'll be my favorite once I'll get to know everyone. Still, I like creepy and dangerous yet loving and generous characters like him - totally my type!
4. Which love interest do you think you will pursue first?
Well, I've started with Mer, but only because some of the guys aren't disponible options in this release. I guess I'd have started with Nicholl or Hood if I had the extended version - I like the idea of romancing a non-prince here, even if Charming's parents won't approve for sure! And besides, I love Nicholl a lot.
5. Any other comments or questions?
Well, I'm sure you get that a lot, but do you have a release date in mind, for the extended version? Other than that, I've seen Ellis will be based on Belle, but then... who is the to be revealed prince Beau? You'd think he'd be the one based on Belle! Do you mind me if I ask what will be the inspiration source for him? If not, that's okay, I can wait!
Oh and also, thank you for the awesome game! Now, to start Snow's route!
First off, I must apologize for the extremely late response >< I didn't notice an email notifying me of new comment on itch.io -- I must have missed it in the mass of emails in my inbox. I'm really sorry about that.
Thank you so much for giving our game a try and leaving a comment! <3 We really really appreciate the feedback :D
Thanks for all the compliments :"D About Mer's endings, I think many people mentioned it was confusing, so we'll see what we can do about it in the full game.
We've just posted Beau's design on our Tumblr, but in case you haven't seen it, Beau is based on Sleeping Beauty! So sorry about the super super late response ;; We'll have his character profile up soon, so if you're interested, do check that out!
Oh, I didn't check tumblr in a while. Makes sense now! And I love Beau's design too... I think design-wise he's my favorite of the bunch!
In the meantime I did the endings of the other princes too, and while Mer is still my favorite of the ones currently accessible, I must admit I love them too. Snow was a very pleasant surprise since I usually don't like characters like him - but he's really cute and lovely.
Well, as I said about Mer's ending - I liked it, a lot. The issue isn't the ending itself, but the transition between the climax of the route and the ending - with some more explanations it would be perfect. I don't know about his other ending because I tend to stick to the first I got if I like it enough, and it was the case here.
And don't worry about the late reply - I don't always recieve notifications either.
Hey~ Thanks for playing our game! What do you mean by the brightness? Do you mean the actual brightness of the game, or just the sparkly art? :p If it's the latter, unfortunately, since it's our artists' style to draw bright, sparkly art, we won't be changing that in the expansion. Sorry about that!
Sometimes, some narration texts have no sense together, missing information, or shown in the wrong order which is sometimes confusing in Mer's route (and I don't mean just at the moment when that was done on purpose as he recounted his story to Charming).
Plot and characters related problems :
Warning : huge potential spoilers
On Mer's route, both endings have Charming act like a selfish and deluded sociopath. None serve a sense of completion regarding what 'Mer' did, and would certainly keep doing doing, had he been let free after all of this. In fact, I don't think Charming's character remains coherent for being still in love with a man she barely knows : because, the only things she knows for sure are mostly creepy. And too few to decide to trust such a person, even for political reason. It kind of clash with how intelligent and independent she was all the way until Mer's endings. Least she would be content to be half a political puppet the rest of her life. Which kind of is the first ending. Regarding justice, I had been somewhat shocked because I had expected Charming and her childhood friend to transfer 'Mer' to another body, because him keeping that one felt wrong after all of this. Though the worst thing in my opinion is how Charming just decide to trust him without retribution and even love him unconditionally. Because in that situation it's completely irresponsible.
Technical strengths:
Very pretty sprites with very detailed eyes, a tight plot with very interesting characters, including Charming. The surprises in the plot were grand! So moving and dramatic that I know I won't forget them soon.
Overall, the writing is excellent. (And very creepy in both of Mer's routes). The music is okay. My favorite was Mer's. The CGI are...well, passable.
Plot and characters related strengths:
Zel's both routes end in a very satisfying way for both Charming, Zel and the player (...Satisfying. Yeah. As long as the type of Zel doesn't makes them drool too much.) Satisfying even for Charming's country, Lunar Kingdom, as well. I only would have wished for, well, further snuggling? ^^ (I would certainly not mind a sequel.) Also, I didn't miss the light yandere vibe in Zel's first ending. Not exactly necessary but very welcome still.
I haven't played Snow's route and don't know if I will. He didn't inspire me anything so far.
I though there would be an unlockable fourth route with Charming's half fairy childhood friend. (But by the end of Zel's routes, I was too busy sighing giddily to be disappointed. ^^)
It might be necessary to warn players that this game is a very realistic one, so young girls can't be fooled by Charming's pigtails and gloating pink stuff. Really now. Both of Mer's route can be very depressing.
I'll buy the game because of how well thought and clever the beginning of Mer's route was.
End of the spoilers.
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I'll keep and maybe replay the game for everything Zel.
So there will be an extented version of the game I read. The program sounds interesting. I'd buy it if we can also have it on Steam.
(What am I saying, I know I'll buy it for Zel anyway. Can't say no so such a rare pastry. He's not the kind of character most popular in Otome games. So with the bonus of his realist personality and character development, it must have taken careful work to make him neither virile nor camp, yet romantically attracted to women. He's quite the rare treat to find.)
To amend a point (spoilers): about 'Mer', it's not him inhabiting the body while loathing noblity that feel so wrong. This does feel wrong, but nothing close to the fact that Charming mostly keeps calling him by the same name both in her thoughts and when she is alone with him...this feels as testimony for her denial.
This: her lack of acknowledgment that he is really a stranger (to the point she doesn't even know how he really looks like or how old he really was - don't even come telling me that it doesn't matter for trusting someone);
this, plus calling him by a name that isn't his is what finish making her love quite messed up.
So yeah, it would solve nothing to punish 'Mer' since he is already off in the head, enough for both of them (his reactions show signs of schizophrenia: he goes from a poised flirting persona, to bawing incontrollably from loneliness, to a self-centered phycho persona showing pleasure in his deceiptions more than once if you pay attention).
The truth serum tells us he doesn't even regret anything except maybe not having enough power to feed everyone. Remember how all the other stories he told Charming never happened? No boat, no village rescuing him, no accidental killing since he knew exactly how his voice worked since the start, peharps even no bullying in his country - all his explanations about that were incoherent, and* he has been a willing murderer since the start. We don't know what he did to Mer's guards in the end, we can only assumebit was worse than killing or destroying. I can think of two possibilities for it that would make both 'Mer', Nicholls and Charming decide not to even mention the nature of the crime
These things and the traumas he mentionned could be full lies made up as failsafes to his shortcommings as a noble and to manipulate Charming into pitiying him. Or real traumas but for very different events than those he tells.
But he is an idiot to expect Charming and Nicholls to let off after all that.
Charming and Nicholls could and should have waited for him to chill down and reflect on all he did a couple months, while using a magical clone of him on the throne during that time, before using another truth serum to verify his sanity and morale first, before deciding anything else.
Loving him, though, seems messed up, no matter how I think about it: affection, okay, desire, I guess, possessivity, understandable after all Charming has risked for him. But sincere love? That feels a bit irrational for Charming's character.
I think the first, the 'good' ending with him was as irresponsible as her second ending with Zel.
Speaking of it:
- Offering a big and heavy fire breathing dragon to make clones of himself? Just after he boasted about ravaging through many weddings and demonstrating his willingness to kill people on a prideful whim?
- Deciding to abandon her country who asked her help with civil war, just to keep her lover's innocence intact a few years more?
Charming?
Not even mentionning responsibility or selfishness, keeping her decision not to return doesn't event sounds well thought: she could have returned and helped settle things before going out to the world with him again. After the demonstrations of will she can do and the fact she succeeded in rescuing Zel while so many others fail it was made into a poem...I'm pretty sure Lynar Kingdom would have trusted her capability and loyalty enough to allow that.
PS:
Now, back to serious business...and ginger-cinnamon-ginseing rolls. :D
I think I've hear something in game about an apron...New CGI you say?
(What? You think his fingers should be covered in dripping blueberry jam too? Well, that's your idea, not mine...) *poofs away*
Thanks a ton for your crits! We'll be taking them into account, and we hope his route will be better in the expansion :) I'm not super sure what you're referring to by text shown in the wrong order, but I'll double check the script to ensure that it's fixed!
Sadly, we didn't get to branch off based on previous choices / tighten the plot due to time & word count constraints, but (hopefully) the most glaring issues should be fixed in the expansion :) The routes will also be somewhat intertwined, so some of the answers to seeming plot holes will be revealed in completely separate routes. Regarding Mer's backstory, well, while all of his stories were at least a little embellished (since he couldn't really tell the truth without revealing the whole story), certainly not all of them were completely fabricated from scratch ;) We'll try to make the details more clear in the expansion!
As for Charming's denial in the endings, that was actually totally intentional & was supposed to tie into the themes LMAO. If it didn't work, though, it didn't work, and we'll try to change the endings' details for the expansion! :) The endings were certainly messed up, and their execution was rushed and weak. Thanks for your suggestions! We'll definitely consider them. Regardless of the changes, we hope the expansion improves on some of the issues 8'D
I think it's an understatement to say that I love this game, but there's no other way I can think of to describe how much I've enjoyed playing it so far. The artwork is beautiful and the characters so real, and I love the balance of humor and drama. You guys have executed the premise so well, and in ways that I definitely didn't expect!
Spoilers Below (?): Honestly, I walked into this thinking that Snow was going to be the problematic fave, so I was so surprised that it was Mer. I guess it really is true what they say: Beware the Quiet Ones! (You'd think that as someone who is the Quiet type, I would've seen that coming, and yet...XD) As wrong as it was for him to pull what he tried to pull, I felt so sorry for him that I was glad that he got a happy ending with Charming, even if its execution seemed iffy (I'm sure the execution will be better in the expansion!). He's suffered so much. T.T (As a side note, I was impressed with Mer's expressiveness during his route. Not gonna lie though, his faces during the climax freaked me out. I really shouldn't have played his route during the night. DX)
And Snow. Oh my God, Snow. He's suffered so much, too, poor man. At first, he comes off so smooth and confident, but then it turns out that he's full of self-loathing due to his curse and his past. I just really wanted to give him a hug so many times during his route. And I liked how you showed the psychological consequences of having an abusive parent. Fairy tales always gloss over it, like "Hurray, the evil stepmom is dead! Everyone's married! It's all good!", when really no, no it's not. Our hero/heroine still suffered at the hands of said stepmom and it's bound to have some impact. So kudos for showing that, and double kudos for making Snow such a sweetie.
I agree with everyone else that Zel is a cinnamon roll too pure for this world. He was just so precious that I couldn't choose the options where you had to make him sad/scared (although, I'm going to be doing it now for my second run.). He was surprisingly smooth for a guy who's been trapped in a tower for 9 years, too. XD Although, I was really surprised--and a little disappointed--that the witch never showed up in the story. I was really looking forward to kicking witch butt! Other than that, I didn't have any issue with Zel's route (well, maybe except for the part where you kinda leave Lunar Kingdom to burn, but that's a small nitpick).
I can't wait for the expansion, especially for Nicholl's route. God, I felt so deprived of him during the game. It's clear that there's more to him than what we've seen so far, so I'm really looking forward to learning about his past as much as the full pasts of the princes.
Hi! Thank you for playing and for writing a long comment!
Haha, glad to hear you liked his happy ending with Charming! Yes, his route has been heavily edited in the expansion and many issues have been hopefully fixed, so we hope the execution of the ending will be better!
Ahhh thank you for your compliments on Snow! Actually, yes. I've always gotten annoyed at fairy tale happy endings — not that I don't love a happy ending, but everything just fades to black implying a "happily ever after" too quickly. It doesn't work like that irl. Emotional trauma from a toxic/abusive family is a topic I care about because I've seen first-handed the lasting damage it can do, so I'm so, so glad that you picked up on my portrayal of Snow's lingering issues.
As for Zel... be careful what you wish for ;) But yeah, we are aware of the issue of lackluster plot and backstory in Zel's route — it was a somewhat conscious choice, because we had to make a difficult choice of cutting his backstory to save time (by not requiring more scenes, more sprites, more BGs etc) or keep them in but risk not making the 30 day deadline for NaNo. In the end, we chose to keep only the important romance parts, so we can promise that in the expansion, you'll see a lot more of Zel's backstory and history with the witch! :) And as for the 2nd ending, that will be tweaked as well to make it hopefully easier to accept due to the majority of responses we've gotten regarding the ending.
Hehe, Nicholl's route... Mm, I can't say much more, but I had a lot of fun writing him :D Hope y'all would have as much fun reading his route in the future too!
Again, thank you for playing Lads in Distress and for taking the time to let us know your thoughts!
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Hi, I was just wondering if you have any idea on when the full version will be released. i don't mean to be rude or ask you to rush I'm just asking as i finished the demo and liked it so much that i can't wait to play the full game through.
They are hoping to release their commercial game (The Masquerade Killer) sometime in Q3/4 of 2018, after that they will continue work on LiD. It's going to be a bit of a wait basically, but I'm sure it will be worth it! And I recommend checking out the writer/artists other games in the mean time, Red String of Fate, Airis, and The Masquerade Killer.
Thanks very much for replying it was very helpful, I almost forgot about posting in this forum.
Of course!
cool!! looking forward to her bestfriend's route :")
lol me too. If you can't tell by my icon xD
I agree, this is an amzing game but is it still a work in progress?
yep
Hi, is this game still being updated. I know Ebullience is working on other otomes.
They are focusing on their commercial game for the moment but have stated that lid is still being worked on sporadically. They are planning on resuming full focus on this after TMKs release.
Thanks for informing me 😊
Of course! :)
I love the bachelors in this game :3
I played this game back when it was just the original Three. And I so desperately at the time wanted it to be able to romance my best friend. When I came across the update my first thought was please let him be a route. You guys do not disappoint.
it's been a while, and many stuff happened to me, but now that I stumbled upon this page again and remember Zel and Nicholl,...I know I'll wait for the full game and get it! (Unless it's too expensive. ... Unless Zel is even more lovable and a little bit sexy. ... Unless I don't have enough moneeey-omg x_x)
The game will be free as they had stated many times before! So you don't have to worry about money!
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Yay! I remember wanting to play this game last year (I'm the jerk who said it didn't work on my computer, remember me? Hopefully not!) Now I'm really glad I got to play the new demo because it was ah-ma-zing!
I chose Mer because I liked his sweet, sad expression. But the other lads were all so cute, it was a hard choice!
I personally really love Princess Charming. I feel you did a great job with her character, she's likable and never boring! I love her playful dialogue with all the characters, and that she always has a good first impression of everyone she meets (except Ellis haha!)
Now I'm excited for the full version- can't wait to find out everyone's delicious backstory!
I didn't like it.
It would help the developers to know what part of the game you didn't like. Because it can help them to improve the game beyond what their demo provides.
Played this game awhile back and went with Zel and really liked it! Keep up the good work! :)
I played the new demo today and i can just say that the game reached a whole new level. The dialoges aren't that short and random anymore and it's really nice to see all of the new features and characters available in the New Demo Version. If the full game turns out to be as great as this Demo than it was clearly worth the wait! I guess i can also say that i liked this short demo a lot more than the old full game, so im pretty excited for u to launch it since it'll surely be hella awesome! Thanks for recreating the game! :)
OMG! the game is amazing! let us know if you guys decide to go for a kickstarter or something <3
Ah, I'm happy for this new demo! I played the NaNo version a few months back, though I forgot to leave a review. Sorry about that, but I guess, at this point, I'll talk about the new demo instead.~ I can see how the script is being reworked, and is flowing much better. The time pressure was visible in the original one, but now it's on par with the gorgeous art and music that I had fallen in love with! I also see that there are sometimes three choices, I'm curious if this means there will be three endings per route?~
From the original three, my favorite is Snow, but Zel is close second. (Honestly I just cannot forgive Mer, but probably I'll understand him better in the new version.) I wonder if the new routes will sway me, since I love both shy characters like Ellis and childhood best friends like Nicholl.~
Cheers for your team, and keep up the good work! I will be looking forward to the full release.~
Uh, if I may ask, why do you like Snow? He was honestly my least favorite, and I strongly disliked him, so I just can't wrap my head around it. I'm not trying to be rude or anything, I'm genuinely curious.
I just played through what's in the Ellis route, and I didn't know what drew me to him. Until I realized- he reminded me so much of a human version of Wheatley! Oh man, once I realized that, it- it was just over. No question, no competition, nope, just Ellis. I love characters like that so much. Though now I've just completed what's in his route, and you did it. Now I'm dying for the full release. Aw man! What the heck! This is why I don't play demos! Now I have to wait to get back to my little cinnamon roll. *cries*
Also, if I may ask, is there any planned release date for the full game?
There were multiple things in the new demo that I was like, "Hey! That's new!" I was honestly taken by a bit of a surprise each time. Though one addition I'm not sure about is Tabitha. She seems like a tad more aggressive version of Nicholl. They're almost like the same character. Was she really needed? Though I suppose I haven't seen much of her, so I can't really say too much. *sigh* (Also, I have seen the comment you made about how Charming needs "pushy" friends in order to not scare them away, and I suppose that makes sense, she just seems a lot like Nicholl somehow. Pushy, kinda sassy, likes to tease, fierce, a good friend, etc.)
I'll try to keep this short, mainly for the purpose of trying not to bore you. (edit - I have failed at keeping this short T_T)
This demo was delightful! The art looked very pleasing, the music was wonderful and the story and writing was just phenomenal.
I went through each of the routes in the NaNoRenO version multiple times (I missed the boys!) and I see clearly how much the writing has improved. Greenace is also doing a fantastic job with the sprites and CG's. I am already waiting for the full version but at the same time dreading it, for the sole reason that this project will be over. *frowns*
Well, the new characters. Tabitha is sooo precious! She gave me a little bit of a 'pushy' vibe which I usually don't like but I actually really liked her as a character ( she also looked girly yet very confident). Ellis is like a cinnamon roll to me (but Zel is my true cinnamon roll!) , he was acting a little weird and awkward which I think is a big part of his charm. The way he looks matches his personality perfectly, and his colour palette was very charming!
Now that I went into the looks of people I really wanted to say I love how the main menu looks like (the bunny ears Nicholl is making are very cute!). Each and every of the characters are really well done with their design and colours. I also really admire the first CG you see in the game (Charming making a potion).
My favourite route just had to be Nicholl's. Ever since the first version of the game I really wanted him to be a love interest, when I found out the news that he will be in the full-er version of the game I was ecstatic. I like the chemistry that Charming and Nicholl have between them and I am really wondering what happens next in his route. It took quite an unexpected turn, which I was charmed by. I am also interested in this melon garden, I hope we can find out a little bit more about it. (Bonus! - I was chuckling to myself so hard at the 'body switching' part in Mer's route, at how he was so flushed and immediately retreated and set that topic aside. It was waaaay more hilarious to me than it should have been.)
Now let me just wrap this up. I am a little bit sad at the fact that Beau and Hood didn't make it into the fuller version. I do recall reading somewhere that you might add them in the distant future, so I'm holding onto that piece of hope. (Mostly because I love the way the setting of the story goes with the plot, definitely one of my favourite Visual Novels out there). I only have 1 question, which has probably answered before but I rather ask it myself and be sure of it, will the full game be free or will you have to pay for it?
Well that's about it, I wish you luck with further development and I'm waiting for more great games from you! Thank you for this fantastic game ^.^
(Just a note to start off with: This is Windchimes, the writer of Lads in Distress / Catfish Crew. I'm just using this account for our new VN studio to answer comments because I have added this account as a contributor to LiD project, and it's easier to monitor all our games under both CC and EG from this account alone.)
Hello! Thank you for trying our new demo and for the detailed feedback! Don't worry, we don't mind long comments at all ^_^
We're glad you like the new demo! :D It particularly makes me happy that you felt the writing has improved. Crazy how much one year of constant VN writing can do, huh? Looking back on the old NaNoRenO script makes me cringe now lol.
Thank you for the compliments on the art! We were worried about whether fans would be unhappy about art inconsistency with the changes in the character artist position, so we're glad to hear you like the character/CG art and Ellis's new design!
Haha, glad to hear you like Tabitha! Yes, she can definitely be pushy, but that's why she's such great friends with Charming ;) Charming needs strong characters like Tabitha as friends or else she'd probably scare all of them away, lol. Yes, I'd say Ellis's social awkwardness is part of his charm. It's so different from all the princes Charming meets daily that she's drawn to it in a strange way. ;)
Ah, another Nicholl fan! Honestly, with how much fans were asking for a Nicholl route for NaNoRenO version, I was so nervous about whether this Nicholl route would let you guys down, so I'm glad to hear you like his route! As for the melon garden... It's actually a joke / meme that started in our public Discord server with fans, so blame them! I ended up making it canon because it fits and it's hilarious, so the melon garden will definitely come up more often in Nicholl's route!
Haha, Beau and Hood... Maybe in a distant future. xD No promises yet! Sorry for the disappointment though OTL We really didn't want to cut them, but we had no choice ;o;
The full game will indeed continue to be free! So no worries about that :D After all, we're using a lot of CC-NC background resources, so we can't make the game commercial even if we wanted to, unless we want to commission full set of original backgrounds lol.
Anyways, thank you again for playing our demo and letting us know your thoughts! ^_^
Okay, I'm already done with the new demo, so commenting as promised!
Also
SPOILERS AHEAD, mainly for people who aren't the devs and didn't play the previous version!
So, first off, I must say I really enjoyed the writing now. Even if I'm not the best judge as english isn't my language, I still can see it's a lot better now. The new characters' sprites are also gorgeous, and the overall thing is just glorious. I'm really thrilled about the full version of this!
Now about the newcomers among the romanceable characters. Ellis is such a lovely character. He's very interesting, and it's really nice that he actually doesn't want to marry - he goes really well with the rest of the cast, since each one of them has really different motivations and ambitions. I also can't wait to learn more about his brothers and all the mess about them. And Nicholl... well, Nicholl is still my favorite, so I can't even express how overjoyed I am with his route, even if it's only the beginning. I was wondering about where would this route go, since he's not one of the suitors per se, and I love it so far, it's so intriguing! And since now he and Charming have a lot more interractions than before, I love their relationship even more.
And now, as you may have expected, I need to talk about Mer, of course, as usual, yeah I'm obsessed, yada yada XD - aaanyway! Yeah, I can see the improvement on the writing here, and my worries are eased so far - it was so great and I'm incredibly excited about it. I also really really like how the talk about the body exchange goes at the beginning - when Nicholl wants to trade bodies with Charming. The flow of this conversation is great. I must admit I don't recall if this conversation was in there in the old version, and I'm too lazy to check it out right now, but if it was, obviously it wasn't as impacting as now. Knowing the truth about Mer and what happens at the end of the route, even if it may have been altered a bit for the new version, I think you really did a great job writing that scene.
I'm really curious if he'll stay my favorite route in this new version or if I'll like Nicholl's route more, as I like him more as a character. We'll see when you'll be done with the full release I guess! Can't wait for it!
Thank you for the great expansion! Good work and good luck with finishing the project!
(Just a note to start off with: This is Windchimes, the writer of Lads in Distress / Catfish Crew. I'm just using this account for our new VN studio to answer comments because I have added this account as a contributor to LiD project, and it's easier to monitor all our games under both CC and EG from this account alone.)
Hello! Thanks for playing the demo and getting back to us with your feedback so quickly! ^_^
Thank you very much for the compliments and kind words! It particularly means a lot to me that you said the writing has improved. Turns out a year of constant VN writing can do a lot for your writing skill lol. Re-reading old script for NaNoRenO version seriously makes me cringe now, so I'm really happy that players feel that the writing in the new demo is better in comparison!
Haha, yes! I definitely had fun writing Ellis. Poor Charming has probably never been rejected before in her life, so I thought it would be fun when one of the princes don't actually want to marry her. ;)
Thank you! I'm so happy and relieved you like Nicholl's route. His is definitely the route I'm most nervous about, since it's new and so many fans have been waiting for a Nicholl route that I was worried the actual route would disappoint, haha.
Yay! Glad to hear you think Mer's route has improved and didn't disappoint you as a fan of the old route. We definitely put in a lot of work trying to rewrite and improve his route, as I believe many players previously criticized parts of Mer's route. The conversation about body swapping actually was in the NaNoRenO version as well! We just rewrote it to make it flow better and be more natural and, well, more hilarious so that it'd be more memorable. Thank you for the compliments! Really glad to hear you liked the new version of Mer's route.
Again, thank you for playing our new demo and for letting us know your thoughts! It means a lot to us :D Hopefully you'll enjoy the final full version too when the time comes!
YOU DID IT GUYS!!!!
HI NIKA <3
YES WE DID IT. Special thanks to you. Oh, you should remind me to add you guys to the credits, haha. I couldn't have made it through the last week of working on the new demo if it weren't for you guys :")
Aw, that's too sweet! I was happy to help, sorry I missed some stuff though OTL
First of all, sorry for my English, it is not my native language) So, I really like your game) The art is unique and very nice.
Now some spoilers. The story... To be honest my first route was with Zel and I really don't like this guy just because crybaby is not my type. Don't be offended please, it's just me) Snow has really nice endings, both of them. Mer's was the last route for me and I was a bit dissapointed at first, cause I has his 'good' ending and was like: 'Seriously? You will just forgive him? That guy is not even trying too hard to make everything okay!' But then I get Mer's second ending. And YOU MADE MY DAY. Usually I don't like something like that in games but here it was unexpected and just hilarious! Maybe that ending is the main reason I liked your game so much) Thank you for creating it ;)
P. S. I am waiting for the full version) It would be very nice to see Nicholl path in it, I like that guy)
(Just a note to start off with: This is the writer of Lads in Distress / Catfish Crew. I'm just using this account for our new VN studio to answer comments because I have added this account as a contributor to LiD project, and it's easier to monitor all our games under both CC and EG from this account alone.)
Thank you for playing the old NaNoRenO version! Happy to hear you liked Snow and Mer's second ending. :D
We now have a new demo for the full version released! There are 2-3 scenes for Nicholl's route in the demo, so hope you'll like him if you end up trying the demo!
Again, thank you for playing the old NaNoRenO version :)
I don't really know what i'm supposed to write here, but i guess i'll just begin from the start.
I really liked the art in general, but the CG's looked like they were drawn by another person? Idk if thats true, but it was kinda another style and i didn't really liked most of the CG's because of that.
The storyidea sounded cool to me in the beginning, but as i continued to play Mer and especially Zels Route, i felt like the story was just being rushed and it started to become flat and boring. I could predict almost everything that happened, and nothing made really sense, to me it seemed like the author just wanted to reveal all the secrets as soon as possible and finish the story. A lot of dialogue missed to complete the story and i started to get bored.
The only route i liked was Prince Snow's route, because his route didn't seem so rushed to me and it wasnt that predictable.
I'm sorry if i'm just writing mean things rn, im not trying to offend someone but this is my opinion on the game so far. I'm interested though how everything'll change when the development progresses cause i liked the basic story and the characters.
Greetings and plz don't take this comment as hate,
komae
It seems like it was rushed because they made it for a game jam. So, the full version will be out with less rushed story-routes.
As for the CG's...idk.
(Just a note to start off with: This is the writer of Lads in Distress / Catfish Crew. I'm just using this account for our new VN studio to answer comments because I have added this account as a contributor to LiD project, and it's easier to monitor all our games under both CC and EG from this account alone.)
Hello! I must apologize for the late reply >_< I don't log on the CatfishCrew account anymore as I'm usually on this EG account to keep track of our new games under this account, so I didn't see the notifications about new comments.
First, to answer your question, yes the CGs were drawn by three artists in the team who stepped up to finish the CGs together after our initial CG artist left so that we could actually release the old version on time for NaNoRenO. As a result, there will definitely be art inconsistencies; sorry to hear you didn't like them! We have a new CG artist now responsible for the CGs of the full version, so hopefully that helps!
Secondly, thanks for your critique on the story! The script was extremely rushed because we wrote all 75k in the span of 30 days for NaNoRenO lol. Sorry to hear you didn't like the game, though! Those issues should be improved upon in the new version.
Thanks for the comment and interest anyway :)
This game was so much fun and so adorable! The different stories were so exciting, but I do hope Nicholl will be an option eventually! :3 I sat and played through every scenario today, and loved it! My only wish was that there were more choices the player could make. Lads in Distress gets two thumbs up from me!
Yep, he's going to be a route in the final version! :D
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Hello! I must apologize for the extremely late reply >_< I don't log on the CatfishCrew account anymore as I'm usually on this EG account to keep track of our new games under this account, so I didn't see the notifications about new comments.
Thank you for the compliments and kind words! Glad to hear you enjoyed the NaNoRenO version.
Yes, Nicholl is now a love interest you can choose to romance in the new demo of the full version that we just recently released! :) Currently, 2-3 of the scenes in his route is covered in the demo. Hope you enjoy romancing Nicholl if you end up trying the new demo!
I want to date Nicholl... Will Nicholl be a love interest too? He's soooo cute , To me.. :3 Please reply...
Yes, he will be!
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Hello! I must apologize for the extremely late reply >_< I don't log on the CatfishCrew account anymore as I'm usually on this EG account to keep track of our new games under this account, so I didn't see the notifications about new comments.
Yes, Nicholl is now a love interest you can choose to romance in the new demo of the full version that we just recently released! :) Currently, 2-3 of the scenes in his route is covered in the demo. Hope you enjoy romancing Nicholl if you end up trying the new demo!
Your file had a virus in it and was removed from my computer.
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Hello! I must apologize for the extremely late reply >_< I don't log on the CatfishCrew account anymore as I'm usually on this EG account to keep track of our new games under this account, so I didn't see the notifications about new comments.
Yes, we're aware some antivirus programs flag our game as a virus, even though all the AV softwares we have access to all report our game files as clean. If you are concerned and would rather not trust that it's a false positive, we totally understand. Sorry for the problems, but thank you for your interest in our game!
I won't open on my mac any tips?
I think someone asked the same thing a bit lower in the comments. Catfish Crew replied and told them instructions on what to do on Mac. Hope It'll work
Can't wait to play! I hope you can romance Nicoll soon. Unless it had already updated to that and/or I missed it :P
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Hello! I must apologize for the extremely late reply >_< I don't log on the CatfishCrew account anymore as I'm usually on this EG account to keep track of our new games under this account, so I didn't see the notifications about new comments.
Nicholl is now a love interest you can choose to romance in the new demo of the full version that we just recently released! :) Currently, 2-3 of the scenes in his route is covered in the demo. Hope you enjoy romancing Nicholl if you end up trying the new demo!
This is so adorable. ;u;
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Hello! I must apologize for the extremely late reply >_< I don't log on the CatfishCrew account anymore as I'm usually on this EG account to keep track of our new games under this account, so I didn't see the notifications about new comments. Thank you very much for the compliment, and thank you for playing LiD! ^_^
Great Job ! Maybe will you make a french version ? :) I hope that my sister can play this novel.
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Hello! I must apologize for the extremely late reply >_< I don't log on the CatfishCrew account anymore as I'm usually on this EG account to keep track of our new games under this account, so I didn't see the notifications about new comments.
We are unlikely to do any translations for this game, sorry :( None of us are proficient enough in French for that, haha. Sorry for any disappointment!
NOOOO YOU CAN'T COURT NICHOLL??? ;_;
Not yet. It's said to come in the next update....lol
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Hello! I must apologize for the extremely late reply >_< I don't log on the CatfishCrew account anymore as I'm usually on this EG account to keep track of our new games under this account, so I didn't see the notifications about new comments.
Nicholl is now a love interest you can choose to romance in the new demo of the full version that we recently released! :) He'll get his own route in the full game as well. Hope you'll enjoy his route if you try the new demo!
Hi! I really really want to play this game but for somehow it won't open. I open the game and it appears and then disappears from the dock? Do you know what the problem may be??
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Hello! I must apologize for the extremely late reply >_< I don't log on the CatfishCrew account anymore as I'm usually on this EG account to keep track of our new games under this account, so I didn't see the notifications about new comments.
If you happen to still have our old NaNoRenO version downloaded, I believe you can try to workaround that problem on Mac by right-clicking the game file and clicking Show Package Contents > Contents > MacOS > Lads in Distress game file again. It should also bring up the terminal, but the game should be able to run properly then. I believe this issue is because the NaNoRenO version of LiD isn't compatible with the new MacOS updates, but who knows ;o; Anyways, that's one workaround we found, but we would definitely suggest you to forget the old NaNoRenO version and just try our new demo for the full version which we recently uploaded for the full experience! Haha.Thank you for your interest in LiD again! Really sorry about the late reply ;o;
This game is absolutely lovely. The character sprites are gorgeous, the backgrounds are beautiful- the interactions are charming and fun. I adore that there are (almost) no bad endings, and trust me I played all of them. It was so refreshing to see a game where the main character (almost) always kept her independence, desire for justice, and need to help others. Charming is a really fun protagonist and I found that I never got annoyed or tired of playing as her. The princes were really nice as well. I really liked all the different routes. If I HAD to pick one, I'd probably pick Zel's "better' route, because he is very sweet and reminds me of myself in a way with his shyness eheh. But yes, overall this is a fantastic game and I absolutely cannot wait for the expansion of this story and more options!
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Hello! Thank you very much for playing Lads in Distress, NaNoRenO version!
First, I must apologize for the extremely late reply >_< I don't log on the CatfishCrew account anymore as I'm usually on this EG account to keep track of our new games under this account, so I didn't see the notifications about new comments.
Anyways, thank you very much for the kind words and compliments! :D We're really glad that you like Charming; we wanted to make a proactive protagonist, so we're glad that the players like her too!
We now have a new demo for the full version of the game up, which covers the new common route + 2 scenes per route (with Ellis and Nicholl as two new love interests), in case you're interested! :)
Thank you again for playing LiD!
This is such a great game! I'm playing through the Mer line as my first playthrough and what a twist!!! I love it!
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Hello! Thank you very much for playing Lads in Distress, NaNoRenO version! Glad to hear you liked him! :D
Apologies for the late reply >_< I don't log on the CatfishCrew account anymore as I'm usually on this EG account to keep track of our new games under this account, so I didn't see the notifications about new comments.
I am trying to open your game, but I can't open the .exe, it says that " You can't open the application "Lads in Distress.exe" because Microsoft Windows applications are not supported on OS X." Please help me, I want to play your game!!!
If you're on Mac using OS platform, you shouldn't be trying to open the .exe file. That zip folder for download has a file to run for each platform -- Windows, Mac and Linux. Run the Mac version -- double click and run the one that doesn't have any file extension (the one without .exe or .sh).
Thanks for trying our game!
Thank you!
I adored this game!!! <3 Can't wait to play more of your games!!
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it :D
I really love this game! I have played through all 3 princes once, and I find them all unique and endearing in their own ways. I plan to play through them again, of course :D
My full review can be found in my blog here: http://pajamagaming.blogspot.com/2016/12/lads-in-distress-for-pc.html
I did find a few spelling errors I wanted to relay to you.
In Prince Mer's path, he says, "Do not remove the water over your years just yet." So it says years instead of ears.
And another in Prince Zel's path, when Charming makes her puppy dog eyes, it says, "... even siffing and tearing up to increase the effect." SO it says siffing, when I think you make have meant sniffing.
Nothing serious, I just wants to let you know :D I look forward to any more additions to the game!
Thanks for playing our game! And thanks for letting us know about the typos, but we won't be fixing them in this version and uploading a new one; we'll likely only be fixing typos in the extended version.
I look forward to it! :)
how can i play it
I loved the game and can't wait for Nicholle's route!!
Thank you very much! :D Glad to hear you enjoyed the game. Hopefully you'll like the full version of the game too <3 We'll be working hard to bring you guys Nicholl's and the new bachelor's routes as soon as possible!
I've just played through the game for the first time, and I love it so far. I'm very curious about the other routes, and even more about these to come in the expansion! I can't wait for it to be released!
Since you were asking for feedback, I'll use your form from the LSF thread!
1. Did you play the NaNoRenO version of LiD? What did you think of it?
This is the one currently disponible, right? I loved the path I did (Mer). I got his first ending, and I liked it a lot. I'm very fond of the soundtrack too, it's very pretty. The menus are very nicely done, and it was a nice idea to use the stars for the sound levels or the pages in the save menu.
2. Any thoughts or comments about the story premise/characters so far?
I like the overall concept, though I can't judge Snow's and Zel's routes yet. But I can already see each route will be unique once you choose the suitor you want, wich is always nice. Mer was a great character - I did his route first because I have a thing for disabled characters. I juste LOVED the whole insecurity and sentiment of distrust all along the route - I couldn't stop playing until I've reached the end of it, and wow, I really enjoyed the revelations and the ending. Though I must admit the ending was a bit confusing - I would like to know what was the solution Nicholl found to get them out of this mess!
3. Who is your favorite character at the moment?
It's hard since I haven't seen Snow and Zel a lot, but the first one to catch my attention was Nicholl, even if he isn't an option in this release. As for Mer, I like him more than I thought I'd do, but it's hard to tell if he'll be my favorite once I'll get to know everyone. Still, I like creepy and dangerous yet loving and generous characters like him - totally my type!
4. Which love interest do you think you will pursue first?
Well, I've started with Mer, but only because some of the guys aren't disponible options in this release. I guess I'd have started with Nicholl or Hood if I had the extended version - I like the idea of romancing a non-prince here, even if Charming's parents won't approve for sure! And besides, I love Nicholl a lot.
5. Any other comments or questions?
Well, I'm sure you get that a lot, but do you have a release date in mind, for the extended version? Other than that, I've seen Ellis will be based on Belle, but then... who is the to be revealed prince Beau? You'd think he'd be the one based on Belle! Do you mind me if I ask what will be the inspiration source for him? If not, that's okay, I can wait!
Oh and also, thank you for the awesome game! Now, to start Snow's route!
First off, I must apologize for the extremely late response >< I didn't notice an email notifying me of new comment on itch.io -- I must have missed it in the mass of emails in my inbox. I'm really sorry about that.
Thank you so much for giving our game a try and leaving a comment! <3 We really really appreciate the feedback :D
Thanks for all the compliments :"D About Mer's endings, I think many people mentioned it was confusing, so we'll see what we can do about it in the full game.
We've just posted Beau's design on our Tumblr, but in case you haven't seen it, Beau is based on Sleeping Beauty! So sorry about the super super late response ;; We'll have his character profile up soon, so if you're interested, do check that out!
Once again, thank you so much for playing.
Oh, I didn't check tumblr in a while. Makes sense now! And I love Beau's design too... I think design-wise he's my favorite of the bunch!
In the meantime I did the endings of the other princes too, and while Mer is still my favorite of the ones currently accessible, I must admit I love them too. Snow was a very pleasant surprise since I usually don't like characters like him - but he's really cute and lovely.
Well, as I said about Mer's ending - I liked it, a lot. The issue isn't the ending itself, but the transition between the climax of the route and the ending - with some more explanations it would be perfect. I don't know about his other ending because I tend to stick to the first I got if I like it enough, and it was the case here.
And don't worry about the late reply - I don't always recieve notifications either.
I love this game but maybe tone down the brightness a bit^^
Hey~ Thanks for playing our game! What do you mean by the brightness? Do you mean the actual brightness of the game, or just the sparkly art? :p If it's the latter, unfortunately, since it's our artists' style to draw bright, sparkly art, we won't be changing that in the expansion. Sorry about that!
Well I don't really mind the bright sparkly art. Just thought it could be tone down a bit. But if it's that not possible, it's fine too.
Technical problems :
Sometimes, some narration texts have no sense together, missing information, or shown in the wrong order which is sometimes confusing in Mer's route (and I don't mean just at the moment when that was done on purpose as he recounted his story to Charming).
Plot and characters related problems :
Warning : huge potential spoilers
On Mer's route, both endings have Charming act like a selfish and deluded sociopath. None serve a sense of completion regarding what 'Mer' did, and would certainly keep doing doing, had he been let free after all of this. In fact, I don't think Charming's character remains coherent for being still in love with a man she barely knows : because, the only things she knows for sure are mostly creepy. And too few to decide to trust such a person, even for political reason. It kind of clash with how intelligent and independent she was all the way until Mer's endings. Least she would be content to be half a political puppet the rest of her life. Which kind of is the first ending. Regarding justice, I had been somewhat shocked because I had expected Charming and her childhood friend to transfer 'Mer' to another body, because him keeping that one felt wrong after all of this. Though the worst thing in my opinion is how Charming just decide to trust him without retribution and even love him unconditionally. Because in that situation it's completely irresponsible.
Technical strengths:
Very pretty sprites with very detailed eyes, a tight plot with very interesting characters, including Charming. The surprises in the plot were grand! So moving and dramatic that I know I won't forget them soon.
Overall, the writing is excellent. (And very creepy in both of Mer's routes). The music is okay. My favorite was Mer's. The CGI are...well, passable.
Plot and characters related strengths:
Zel's both routes end in a very satisfying way for both Charming, Zel and the player (...Satisfying. Yeah. As long as the type of Zel doesn't makes them drool too much.) Satisfying even for Charming's country, Lunar Kingdom, as well. I only would have wished for, well, further snuggling? ^^ (I would certainly not mind a sequel.) Also, I didn't miss the light yandere vibe in Zel's first ending. Not exactly necessary but very welcome still.
I haven't played Snow's route and don't know if I will. He didn't inspire me anything so far.
I though there would be an unlockable fourth route with Charming's half fairy childhood friend. (But by the end of Zel's routes, I was too busy sighing giddily to be disappointed. ^^)
It might be necessary to warn players that this game is a very realistic one, so young girls can't be fooled by Charming's pigtails and gloating pink stuff. Really now. Both of Mer's route can be very depressing.
I'll buy the game because of how well thought and clever the beginning of Mer's route was.
End of the spoilers.
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I'll keep and maybe replay the game for everything Zel.
So there will be an extented version of the game I read. The program sounds interesting. I'd buy it if we can also have it on Steam.
(What am I saying, I know I'll buy it for Zel anyway. Can't say no so such a rare pastry. He's not the kind of character most popular in Otome games. So with the bonus of his realist personality and character development, it must have taken careful work to make him neither virile nor camp, yet romantically attracted to women. He's quite the rare treat to find.)
To amend a point (spoilers): about 'Mer', it's not him inhabiting the body while loathing noblity that feel so wrong. This does feel wrong, but nothing close to the fact that Charming mostly keeps calling him by the same name both in her thoughts and when she is alone with him...this feels as testimony for her denial.
This: her lack of acknowledgment that he is really a stranger (to the point she doesn't even know how he really looks like or how old he really was - don't even come telling me that it doesn't matter for trusting someone);
this, plus calling him by a name that isn't his is what finish making her love quite messed up.
So yeah, it would solve nothing to punish 'Mer' since he is already off in the head, enough for both of them (his reactions show signs of schizophrenia: he goes from a poised flirting persona, to bawing incontrollably from loneliness, to a self-centered phycho persona showing pleasure in his deceiptions more than once if you pay attention).
The truth serum tells us he doesn't even regret anything except maybe not having enough power to feed everyone. Remember how all the other stories he told Charming never happened? No boat, no village rescuing him, no accidental killing since he knew exactly how his voice worked since the start, peharps even no bullying in his country - all his explanations about that were incoherent, and* he has been a willing murderer since the start. We don't know what he did to Mer's guards in the end, we can only assumebit was worse than killing or destroying. I can think of two possibilities for it that would make both 'Mer', Nicholls and Charming decide not to even mention the nature of the crime
These things and the traumas he mentionned could be full lies made up as failsafes to his shortcommings as a noble and to manipulate Charming into pitiying him. Or real traumas but for very different events than those he tells.
But he is an idiot to expect Charming and Nicholls to let off after all that.
Charming and Nicholls could and should have waited for him to chill down and reflect on all he did a couple months, while using a magical clone of him on the throne during that time, before using another truth serum to verify his sanity and morale first, before deciding anything else.
Loving him, though, seems messed up, no matter how I think about it: affection, okay, desire, I guess, possessivity, understandable after all Charming has risked for him. But sincere love? That feels a bit irrational for Charming's character.
I think the first, the 'good' ending with him was as irresponsible as her second ending with Zel.
Speaking of it:
- Offering a big and heavy fire breathing dragon to make clones of himself? Just after he boasted about ravaging through many weddings and demonstrating his willingness to kill people on a prideful whim?
- Deciding to abandon her country who asked her help with civil war, just to keep her lover's innocence intact a few years more?
Charming?
Not even mentionning responsibility or selfishness, keeping her decision not to return doesn't event sounds well thought: she could have returned and helped settle things before going out to the world with him again. After the demonstrations of will she can do and the fact she succeeded in rescuing Zel while so many others fail it was made into a poem...I'm pretty sure Lynar Kingdom would have trusted her capability and loyalty enough to allow that.
PS:
Now, back to serious business...and ginger-cinnamon-ginseing rolls. :D
I think I've hear something in game about an apron...New CGI you say?
(What? You think his fingers should be covered in dripping blueberry jam too? Well, that's your idea, not mine...) *poofs away*
Thanks a ton for your crits! We'll be taking them into account, and we hope his route will be better in the expansion :) I'm not super sure what you're referring to by text shown in the wrong order, but I'll double check the script to ensure that it's fixed!
Sadly, we didn't get to branch off based on previous choices / tighten the plot due to time & word count constraints, but (hopefully) the most glaring issues should be fixed in the expansion :) The routes will also be somewhat intertwined, so some of the answers to seeming plot holes will be revealed in completely separate routes. Regarding Mer's backstory, well, while all of his stories were at least a little embellished (since he couldn't really tell the truth without revealing the whole story), certainly not all of them were completely fabricated from scratch ;) We'll try to make the details more clear in the expansion!
As for Charming's denial in the endings, that was actually totally intentional & was supposed to tie into the themes LMAO. If it didn't work, though, it didn't work, and we'll try to change the endings' details for the expansion! :) The endings were certainly messed up, and their execution was rushed and weak. Thanks for your suggestions! We'll definitely consider them. Regardless of the changes, we hope the expansion improves on some of the issues 8'D
I think it's an understatement to say that I love this game, but there's no other way I can think of to describe how much I've enjoyed playing it so far. The artwork is beautiful and the characters so real, and I love the balance of humor and drama. You guys have executed the premise so well, and in ways that I definitely didn't expect!
Spoilers Below (?):
Honestly, I walked into this thinking that Snow was going to be the problematic fave, so I was so surprised that it was Mer. I guess it really is true what they say: Beware the Quiet Ones! (You'd think that as someone who is the Quiet type, I would've seen that coming, and yet...XD) As wrong as it was for him to pull what he tried to pull, I felt so sorry for him that I was glad that he got a happy ending with Charming, even if its execution seemed iffy (I'm sure the execution will be better in the expansion!). He's suffered so much. T.T (As a side note, I was impressed with Mer's expressiveness during his route. Not gonna lie though, his faces during the climax freaked me out. I really shouldn't have played his route during the night. DX)
And Snow. Oh my God, Snow. He's suffered so much, too, poor man. At first, he comes off so smooth and confident, but then it turns out that he's full of self-loathing due to his curse and his past. I just really wanted to give him a hug so many times during his route. And I liked how you showed the psychological consequences of having an abusive parent. Fairy tales always gloss over it, like "Hurray, the evil stepmom is dead! Everyone's married! It's all good!", when really no, no it's not. Our hero/heroine still suffered at the hands of said stepmom and it's bound to have some impact. So kudos for showing that, and double kudos for making Snow such a sweetie.
I agree with everyone else that Zel is a cinnamon roll too pure for this world. He was just so precious that I couldn't choose the options where you had to make him sad/scared (although, I'm going to be doing it now for my second run.). He was surprisingly smooth for a guy who's been trapped in a tower for 9 years, too. XD Although, I was really surprised--and a little disappointed--that the witch never showed up in the story. I was really looking forward to kicking witch butt! Other than that, I didn't have any issue with Zel's route (well, maybe except for the part where you kinda leave Lunar Kingdom to burn, but that's a small nitpick).
I can't wait for the expansion, especially for Nicholl's route. God, I felt so deprived of him during the game. It's clear that there's more to him than what we've seen so far, so I'm really looking forward to learning about his past as much as the full pasts of the princes.
Hi! Thank you for playing and for writing a long comment!
Haha, glad to hear you liked his happy ending with Charming! Yes, his route has been heavily edited in the expansion and many issues have been hopefully fixed, so we hope the execution of the ending will be better!
Ahhh thank you for your compliments on Snow! Actually, yes. I've always gotten annoyed at fairy tale happy endings — not that I don't love a happy ending, but everything just fades to black implying a "happily ever after" too quickly. It doesn't work like that irl. Emotional trauma from a toxic/abusive family is a topic I care about because I've seen first-handed the lasting damage it can do, so I'm so, so glad that you picked up on my portrayal of Snow's lingering issues.
As for Zel... be careful what you wish for ;) But yeah, we are aware of the issue of lackluster plot and backstory in Zel's route — it was a somewhat conscious choice, because we had to make a difficult choice of cutting his backstory to save time (by not requiring more scenes, more sprites, more BGs etc) or keep them in but risk not making the 30 day deadline for NaNo. In the end, we chose to keep only the important romance parts, so we can promise that in the expansion, you'll see a lot more of Zel's backstory and history with the witch! :) And as for the 2nd ending, that will be tweaked as well to make it hopefully easier to accept due to the majority of responses we've gotten regarding the ending.
Hehe, Nicholl's route... Mm, I can't say much more, but I had a lot of fun writing him :D Hope y'all would have as much fun reading his route in the future too!
Again, thank you for playing Lads in Distress and for taking the time to let us know your thoughts!